Discussing the Duluth Curriculum: creating a process of change for men who batter.

This is an edited version of a heretofore unpublished conversation between Ellen Pence and Luis Aravena. It provides a clear explanation of the philosophy and method of the Duluth Model men's program, emphasizing the need to put the experience of women who have been abused at the center of our work with abusive men, especially by helping abusive men become more self-reflective with regard to their behavior.