She said, "some patient needs get dropped due to more pressing issues".

The engagement of the social sciences by pastoral care and education will not turn chaplains or supervisors into social scientists. Ministry is not a higher calling than science; nor will chaplains be co-oped into doing ministry by the numbers. Scientific research in pastoral care and teaching could focus on these broad areas, but administrators face multiple pressures and will not easily be convinced by rational argument. As religion and science dare to engage a meaningful dialogue; a deeper, transcendent reality will unfold.